Mixed Up With Me

Sallie (00:17)
and welcome to Twin Study After Dark. I’m your host Sally and I’m your other host Katie.

Welcome! Katie, how is your week going? it’s going. I feel very tired right now, so if I look tired it’s because I am in fact very tired. I did not sleep well last night. Did you not sleep well? I slept okay, but I had to wake up at 4 30 this morning to go to work and…

I just have not been sleeping the best. The other night my fire alarm started beeping. What? That happened to me one night. But it was just, it wasn’t going off. It was beeping like it beeps when the battery’s low. okay. But when, to be completely honest, I was so lazy I just buried my head in pillows. my god, Katie. Because I knew I wasn’t gonna be able to reach it. That is literally the most annoying thing ever. I know, so I was like, I’m not gonna be able to reach it, so I’m just gonna bury my head in pillows and try to sleep the rest of the night. So I did.

I did that, but then I forgot about it. I went up and got, and went to work and I forgot that it was beeping. And then I went away for the weekend and I also forgot to do anything about it. So I don’t know how you didn’t hear it when you were watching the dogs. I swear I never once heard it. It must have been selective beeping because when we came back from, we had gone to Universal for the weekend, when we came back,

It was beeping again and you couldn’t really tell which one it was. So we checked all of them and usually it has a red light flashing if it’s low on battery. The one that was actually beeping was green. It was not red. Okay. And it was the one in this podcast room, right directly above the potentially haunted lamp. It was the lamp. And there’s no reason again why it should have been beeping, but I… How’d you get it to stop?

We did change the battery. We changed the battery and it stopped beeping. I will say when I checked on the dogs I didn’t hear it beeping at all, but it is upstairs so maybe that’s why. No, you can hear this thing everywhere. It’s so loud. I just can’t believe you went to bed and slept through it because that to me is misery. Like huge sleep go off every… I don’t even know how many minutes. I don’t know what I did in my past life, but good sleep is not…

part of my life. I don’t know how… No, but also we are the type of people who really want a lot of sleep. We want it so bad. And I just can’t ever have.

If I could, the best vacation for me would be a weekend away and I’d just sleep the entire time in a dark hotel room. No, that’s what people give me crap about on all of our girls trips. People are always like, Sally’s gonna be sleeping for 18 hours. But I do, I just fall asleep and I sleep for like 18 hours straight. But it’s funny because I think like my best performing self either has to have zero hours of sleep and I’m just in it grinding or…

a ton of sleep. But if I’m getting sleep but not enough sleep, I am just not.

doing well. Like I just can’t even function. Like when it’s almost like, you almost made it, but not quite. Like you can’t recharge yourself. I’m horrible with lack of sleep. Adam jokes about it because Adam’s like, Sally needs more sleep than the average human. I think we do. I just don’t get it. And so it’s always like fake it till you make it. Every friend of ours or boyfriend or whatever family member knows this about us. They’re like, they need to nap. Give them a nap. And I would say for the past like five years, I have

haven’t been able to nap. You don’t! Once you have children, you don’t nap! And it’s changed me. Yeah, it’s just driven me crazy. And that’s why, like, at nine o ‘clock at night, I just need to go to bed or I get a headache. Yeah, totally. But if I’m on zero sleep, I can, like, somehow, that somehow makes me feel like I’m…

on ecstasy and I have extra energy for some reason, I don’t know why. I get to the point where I haven’t slept for so long that my eyes will twitch if I shut them. It’s like shutting your eyes causes them to go into panic mode or something and then they start twitching like crazy. We do get really twitchy eyes when we’re tired. My left one gets twitchy. But I live on Diet Coke, coffee, I mean I just feel like I’m continuously… All the liquids. Yeah.

Anyway, so how was your weekend? My week’s been really good, honestly. I want to just say that I told the guests, our listeners, that I would report back about the moon water if it worked. yeah. And it seems to have worked. So I told them I’d tell them what it was about if it came true. Okay. So I… As a reminder, what was the moon water supposed to do? Okay, so when we do… or when we were talking about…

manifestations on new moons and closing chapters on full moons. But when I talked about that, somebody who does a full moon ritual shared it with me. And her ritual was to set out water in jars under the full moon and set them with intentions. I thought this was interesting because it seemed more of like what I would do on a new moon. But she said it works and that’s why she keeps doing it. My light on my ring light is flickering. So I’m sorry if anyone’s seeing that. Do you see that?

Yeah, I see it, but also my eyes are twitching. Yeah, it’s like driving me bonkers. It’s fine Okay, let’s try a new light. Okay, so anyway, so I did it so Adam and I did it We set our intentions and mine was a financial intention. I set it out saying like kind of like I want to rid the worry of financial burden and I want to bring in a random amount of like I want money to come to me financially. Yes, but I was like

I basically was like, thank you for the money I’m going to receive. I don’t even know where it’s coming from, but it’s coming kind of thing. Yeah. Well, today I woke up and I was feeling like kind of antsy and I didn’t really know why. And then I started just thinking, I think something’s going to happen today. Like I had an intuition. Yeah. I open our mailbox and there is a check in there that I did not expect. Neither Adam or I saw coming. Mm hmm. Yeah.

made no sense at all because this chapter in our lives has closed and we had a lump sum of money come to us that we didn’t even expect. Can somebody send me a lump sum of money? This literally was so unexpected and I don’t want to go too much into who it came from or anything. But I didn’t anticipate it. We had no way of thinking that we were going to get money. And I am going to say thank you Moonwater. Yeah, because it’s been what like a week. So we’re not going to talk on the moon today but we

because it’s not gonna matter by the time you listen to this. But there is a new moon today and it’s supposed to be one of the most powerful ones, I think the most powerful one this year for manifestation. And I heard one person say in the next 14 years. I think that honestly I felt it this morning. I just felt like completely in my power and like I was stepping into this next chapter. And it’s a chapter that I talked about a lot but today it just really felt like the manifestation.

was already happening, occurring. Okay, I kind of got you with that. Yeah. So anyway, that’s cool. That’s pretty cool. So I was thinking this weekend because I once went to a psychic and he told me that my twin baby girls, he believed was originally one soul and they were split. They split into two bodies upon coming to earth and it was a choice that that soul made. To me, it made sense because I thought that was like,

If it was true, that would make sense. Like, I would love to have twin babies, right? And like, that soul might have known that or something like that. You know what I mean? I was like, that’s cute. Okay. And we’ve never personally been told we’re one soul split, but we have… I think there has. The last psychic we saw said similar. Okay. But I heard that about my baby girls. Yeah. It got me thinking about twin flames.

Okay. So I started thinking about twin flames because I oftentimes hear about twin flames and how they’re basically one soul split into two. And I was like, okay, so if you’re a twin, do you just have your twin flame with you automatically? And I want to tell you, I did research and I have all my research right here. Yeah, I’m curious to see what you found. But this is the debate. Like, do you think I’m your twin flame?

But I want to start by giving the definition. OK. Let me give you the definition first. So the definition of a twin flame is two people who are connected on a spiritual level, said to be two halves of one soul in different bodies. It can be a close relationship or a lover relationship. It doesn’t necessarily need to be a lover relationship, although it is very, very passionate. So sometimes it is.

But like Katie, I mean I wrote down so much and I don’t want to talk about it too much, but before you get talking I feel like you need my research. I mean, maybe, okay, well that’s okay without the research that, because I – No, this is my own, so without the research I can say I know what I have researched on my own outside of this conversation right now, but in the past. So I know what my definition to inflame to me kind of is. I don’t think, I’m not –

I’m just gonna lie, I don’t think that you are my twin flame. Okay, so that’s the thing, because when I looked it up online, and my twin girls might be twin flames because they might be one soul split. I’m not saying they aren’t, or whatever. Yeah, but you could be. But listen, everything I researched was like, no, identical twins are their own souls. 100 % their own souls, and they will have their own twin flame. But.

Not everybody has a twin flame. Okay, see I was gonna say I know a twin flame is supposed to challenge you like it’s supposed to be this a mirror. It’s basically a mirror to yourself so you can evolve and grow into the person you’re supposed to be and so it’s really really passionate and you’re instantly attached or attracted to that person but then you’ll be faced with all these challenges because you’re supposed to learn from them and I just don’t think you teach me enough for you to be my twin flame.

That’s interesting. I mean seriously though.

because, okay, so anyway, what qualifies twin flames? They have a lot of the same strengths and weaknesses. They always change your life or they change the course of your life. It’s intense. They are different than a soulmate, although some are both a soulmate and a twin flame. That’s where it gets confusing to me, honestly.

You meet and your life completely changes and it doesn’t need to be romantic. It pushes you to engage with the divine, shift consciousness, become better.

It feels like you met someone that you’ve already met in your life before you might be listening to them Tell a story about childhood and say damn that sounds exactly like my life. Yeah It’s easy to confuse with karmic relationships because that familiar feeling is something that you also feel on karmic relationships but you guys balance each other’s energies and It said it’s uncommon for twin flames to become lifelong partners because it is so intense. I

Most times you meet, you grow, and you move on. Exactly. Yes. So that’s, I think, what I got confused about because I was like, okay, so are we twin flames? Because we share each other’s strengths and weaknesses sometimes. We mirror each other. We came in, because if you’re defining it based on one soul splitting and that’s what you said twins was, that would mean we were twin flames. But I just don’t think we’re twin flames. We’re not. We’re absolutely not. Yeah, so I think we might be individual souls. I think that we could be soul mates.

yeah, because that’s another thing. Supposedly you have one twin flame, if any. Sometimes you don’t have any. You have multiple soulmates. You can have multiple soulmates and it does not have to be romantic. Yeah. Neither does a twin flame. So okay, so we both agreed we’re not each other’s twin flame. I don’t think we are. Yeah. I say that you do push me in some regard and you hold up a mirror a lot of ways because you call me out on my bullshit. But I don’t think it’s in a way of like the intensity of a twin flame.

Also, we’re not going anywhere. We’re not moving on from each other. I think I dated a twin flame. Okay, so that was my next question. Do you think that you’ve experienced a twin flame in your life? I think I have because it was very… the connection was unexplainable. It was like we’d known each other for a long time even though we hadn’t. It was instantaneous. The moment we met, we just clicked and got each other. When we’d share past stories, we had…

very similar, identical paths. And it was like, my gosh, you did that, I did that too. And then, but when it came to, we were also on spiritual journeys, independently, somewhat aligned, but in the end when we would have conflict, it was like arguing with myself. Like we could not get through to each other. And it was, it was so eye -opening. And I,

Ultimately, in the end, it was just too intense. And it was also, I was able to see where I wasn’t able to make compromises, but like through his lens, you know, because I was seeing him and he was doing so much of the stuff I do, especially in moments of conflict, that I was like, we could never be together. But like, it was so intense and powerful. And when he came into my life, it was a very…

pivotal time in my life. Do you mind if I ask what age? Because I also research what age they usually come in. really? So how old was I? I’m like what, how am I now? Were you 30? 31 I think, 31. No 32 maybe, 31 or 32. Okay I think I saw like the age range is like upper 20s. Okay so yeah well you know and I don’t think I my ex -husband was not a twin flame. I think that he may have been a karmic relationship.

He, for some reason, he and I needed to be connected. I really believe this. And I think we would have stayed together until we had a child, no matter what. I really, I’ve said this before. I think we had to have a child together for some evolution to happen for some reason and for parts of us to heal. But I think he was a karmic relationship. I think the person I, it’s one of the people I dated after him was a twin flame and it came in, it was like a pivotal part of my life. Okay.

What changed in your life after you met him? Because supposedly it’s life changing. It was that I just, I think I found independence. I was like, I’m not going to find happiness through another person. Like I refuse to do that anymore. I’ve always, I’ve always depended on having a significant other to feel whole. And it was like, I’m not doing it anymore. I can’t, I’m changing. I’m focusing on myself. I’m going to start loving myself. Okay. Do you know with confidence you would call that a twin flame?

I out of everything I’ve ever read I really really believe it is it was a twin flame a relationship interesting see I have one relationship in my life that maybe could have been I know it sounds kind of similar to what you’re saying but I’m not confident in saying that was a twin flame so that’s why when I read not everybody has one I was like maybe I just didn’t have one I think that I don’t it’s easy for me to be like this is a twin flame this is a karmic relationship because in my

Opinion you don’t end up with those people like those aren’t people you’re supposed to end up with they’re in your life for a per for a season and it’s for you to change and grow and be redirected and It’s much harder for me to say I’ve met a soulmate because that seems terrifying Okay, so it made me kind of sad like researching twin flame because it seems

to me, almost really sexy to have someone who’d just say, they’re my twin flame. You know, Megan Fox is always like, yeah, Machine Gun Kelly is your twin flame. And I’m like, my god, that’s so sexy. I love it. It’s so rare you’d end up with your twin flame. Yeah, so I was thinking about it, and I was like, well, Adam, we had similar upbringings. I felt a spark when we met. All this stuff. But intensity, I feel like our relationship is so like,

Docile compared like I wouldn’t call it intense like we don’t have extreme ups and downs We don’t have big blowout fights for the most part. We Also like when I was researching soulmates it said soulmates are more like your compatible partner like they kind of They don’t have everything the same as you but they’re compatible to you Yeah, like you guys have strengths and weaknesses that you guys

mesh well together and I feel like when I was looking at Adam I’m like he’s nothing like me. Like you know he can’t be my twin flame because he is like me in some ways. We have a lot of the same like lifestyle challenges sometimes. I don’t know we go through the same journeys but our responses are so different. Yeah I think that us only has less

probably in common with you, but you guys just understand each other. Yeah, yeah, so it’s like compatibility. Yeah. So yeah, I think of like to win flame and I don’t know if I’ve had one and if I have, I think that there was probably one past relationship I would have quit it to where it’s kind of was like really sparky, really fun, lasted for like a year or so. And it was like a really fun time in my life. You know, like it felt magical. Yeah. Like.

that wasn’t gonna last. So maybe I have met my twin flame. I just am sad that I can’t say it’s like my soulmate. But at the same time, like you said, I think soulmates actually richer and better. Yeah. But twin flame, yeah, it just has that sexy sound to it. In my opinion, you do not want to end up with your twin flame. Yeah, I know, because you just be constantly. No, like do not it be miserable. Yeah, you have to. They’re in your life for a purpose and for a reason, but that purpose and reason.

will only be discovered by separating. What was, you know, when you were in relationship with your twin flame, what was the hardest part to look at in them that you know you were also like, like, you know how it says they share qualities that you share? Yeah. What was the hardest thing to be like, wow, I do that and that’s actually terrible. I need to change. The defensiveness.

when we’d have disagreements or arguments, I remember he could just not take accountability and he would turn it back on me and like basically literally ask me the same question I was asking him. Like I’d be like accusing him of something and he’d turn around and accuse me of the exact same thing. Like we literally were mirroring, I’m not kidding, mirroring the shit out of each other. And I was like, I can’t handle this.

But did it change how you approach conversations with your significant other now? Yeah. Are you less hostile because you’ve experienced it now? Absolutely. I’m less hostile. I still have things I need to work on, but I wouldn’t have even come to realize that if I didn’t date that guy. And not to be super mean, because I can be like this too, but Katie before…

I would say especially like in your marriage and like when you were going through it when you were not in a happy place Yeah, you really would go into arguments and there would be zero changing of the mind like it would talk. Yeah, it would be You’d be talking in circles. It was pointless. It was pointless It was like you’re talking to a brick wall because she would just like only say no, I’m right and you’re wrong basically Yeah, so that was good actually and I think too when I think about how

how far I’ve come, I used to be so black and white that, and I am a liberal, like I am left hardcore, you know, but I used to be so black and white that I couldn’t even be friends with people that had voted a certain way. Like I’d be like, we are not in alignment, like I can’t do this, how could we be friends? We can’t agree on this. She was a number one enneagram, if anybody knows that. But not.

Number eight. I know, but you go bald. I know, you go bald. But yeah, so, but since, I don’t know, since then, now the person I’m dating now, we have very different interests. He is a registered independent and I thought that was the sexiest thing he’s ever told me. But I would say that that old Katie could have never dated who I’m dating now. Yeah. Like I would have been like, nope.

You know the difference between twin flames too. I just, like I said, I don’t know if I’ve had it, but if I have, I know what relationship it would have been. It’s funny because your soulmate, it just feels like, at least in Adam and I know the person you’re dating now, I think he definitely is a soulmate of yours. Not to say he’s gonna be your husband someday, but he’s definitely a soulmate because you guys really compliment each other and I think he’s really evolved your thinking and stuff about being more open -minded.

But, shoot, where was I going with this? Damn it! my god, I lost my train of thought. Well, I just, I think that… Damn it! But, okay, well anyway, my point is I think you evolve from a twin flame, but you also evolve from soulmates. Yeah, and I think that a soulmate, again, it’s like just this mutual understanding for some reason.

you just click and… and you get there healthier. Like you evolve healthier. You do. You get there healthier and also you’re making each other better people for sure. But there is just something where, I don’t know, like there’s like an acceptance factor of like, they just accept you. Like I just accept you. You know? And like there’s not convincing that has to happen. It’s like this compatibility of just…

And do you think that like twin flames, it’s not that they accept you, it’s that they kind of understand you because they’re the same. Yeah. And then, yeah, because I would say it’s soulmates. I don’t think Adam always. Sorry. my God, I’m always. She’s such a mess. She’s such a mess. Always every freaking podcast. And I don’t even burp that much. I get a lot of air in my stomach. You clearly do. Yeah.

But I think with Adam, I truly do think he’s a soulmate of mine, as well as my kids. I do believe in multiple soulmates. But I think he doesn’t always need to understand me necessarily, but he accepts me. Yeah. And he loves me. And I think that’s the thing with soulmates. It’s very calming.

Both of us, I don’t think we do good with twin flames in general because we’re fiery to begin with. I mean, we’re air baby. If they’re fire, like we’re explosions. It’s like going up. Yeah.

But really we both go up and smoke and then we run away from each other It doesn’t work out but like Adam and the person you’re with right now are such calming forces like it’s almost like we needed someone to like Like almost like if we’re fired they’re like putting it out kind of like you know, like they’re kind of like don’t Don’t fire up

don’t, I’m all I’m envisioning and like I have a vision of like a fire blanket out over a flat fire. Like that’s who they are. And then we feel all cool, like snuggly and like, we’re like, okay, I’m safe. I don’t need to be reacting like this. I think soulmates are like that. And I also think that.

soulmates and that mutual understanding of each other and what the other one needs is just there and I have People in my life that are friends that I consider soulmates. I really believe they’re soulmates So like again, it doesn’t have to be in a relationship I think that I really value the term soulmate so I don’t like to throw it out there all the time I value it more than I know karmic relationships are important because that’s how you

you’re healing something from a past life in a karmic relationship. Twin flames are important because you’re evolving, you’re redirecting with a twin flame. But a soulmate to me is like something to be treasured. And I just feel like I do have women in my life that are soulmates. And it’s really hard for me to say without like feeling tons of overwhelming anxiety like.

my current partner is my soulmate because I feel like when I say that it means so much. Well then say he’s a soulmate. Because saying my soulmate is like more like obsessive. Like you’re my soulmate. No he’s just a soulmate I’ve had in my life. There you go. Perfect. Soulmates and sometimes soulmates last a lifetime. Twin flames do not. I wanted to look into too, I think I saw that twin flames can even be your own children.

Twin flames? Yeah, isn’t that crazy? I was actually wondering that when you were talking about you don’t think you’ve met one. Were you thinking if it was Scott for me? I would not be surprised. So when I looked into it, it makes me nervous because it said lots of times they’re not people that you have a lifelong relationship with. But Scott, when the way he reacts to situations is so me. Like to the point where I’ve learned a lot about.

who you are. Yeah, who I am by watching him. Yeah. And Adam is so different in his reactions to things. He’s more like our oldest daughter, Suzy, and I think the twins are kind of going to be a mix. But Adam is really bad at calming Scott down because Adam is so calm and Scott, like, is very fire.

But like, I feel like I’m learning how to calm him down and it’s kind of killing me. Yeah, it’s like calming myself down. And I’m like, I wonder if he’s my twin flame because I truly do see a piece of myself so much in him. Yeah. And it’s not like a piece that’s admirable, but it’s a piece he’s going to have to work through. Yeah. Somebody who knows a lot about this, let us know if twin flames have to come in at the same time. Like, could you split your soul split and come in at separate times? Because, or does it have to be at the same time?

I guess, you know, like would they be your same age or does it matter? That’s true. I guess it doesn’t matter though, probably because I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. We need an expert on this. I did Google could it be your child and it said and it did say yes. but I just didn’t further explore it because I think twins claim I think a lot about romantic partners. I think that it’s an intense relationship no matter what. And I do think that if that is if.

A child could be a twin flame. I think Scott could totally be yours. Yes, I think so. Like someone I’m learning from because I’m like, David, I’m like this so I need to learn. And in regard to like your son, he could be your exes in a way because they deal with some of the same things. I think that I think my son is a soulmate. I really… To you. To me. Yes. Yes. I think he’s absolutely a soulmate and I… Yeah.

But to your ex, don’t you think he’s probably learning a lot of because they have some of the same things? Like maybe, but I’m not sure. I don’t know. I’m not sure. I don’t want to speak on behalf of them. Yeah, I want to get his feedback on this. Yeah, I don’t know. That’s interesting. Well, anyway, yeah, so that’s kind of that was my debate today. It was just so you don’t think I’m your twin flame? No. Like I said, I feel like sad because I want it to be true, but it’s just not. I think we’re soulmates. I don’t think you’re my twin flame. What do you think we were together in a past life?

In the past life, I think that I want to, I’ve been very curious. We are doing a past life regression. We have to, we have to do a past life regression. I think one of us may have been the other one’s parent or something. my Lord. Katie thinks she was right here. No, no, no, no. I think that you might’ve been, so because they reversed it, cause now I feel like I’m always parenting you. Katie’s always like, I’m the older sister. I’m three minutes older. I’ve been made, like, this is ridiculous. Okay. What do you think we were? Do you think we were lovers in the past life? No, no, because our,

What we find like sexy is not the same. No. What do you think we were? I don’t know. Do you think you were a Labrador? A yellow Labrador? Mother Willow, can you tell us? I’m positive I was a duck in my last life. Okay, well, maybe you are. And I always say if I die, I’m going to come back as a Disney duck. Like a duck that walks the parks at Disney. That’s like the –

No, it’s true. I honestly think that’s why I’m so connected to Disney is I think I was a Disney duck in a past life. And I honestly, yeah, I don’t want to talk forever. Maybe we were just like married in a past life. Like maybe we were maybe we were a couple. I don’t know.

But like why would we want to come back and be, maybe we’re just friends. Do you think maybe we’re friends? Like best friends? Don’t you come back to evolve and learn more? So like how could we be evolving if you’re friends? Maybe we’re enemies. maybe we’re enemies. And then they’re like we’re gonna tie you together and you’ll be stuck together. You’ll come out at once and you’ll have a common enemy. Or like you’re gonna learn to like each other. Common enemy?

So we had a common enemy our whole lives so that we were forced to get along. Who is our common enemy? I mean we always growing up we just had one. like our parents when we were kids like mom’s being mean to me. I mean we dealt with some childhood stuff. Yeah the universe knew we had to work through it together. Yeah. Because we’re not super identical in the things we like and stuff but we’re identical moral wise. If anybody wants to come on our podcast and do a past life. No Katie we have to

It’s like so expensive, but we have to go and like lay in a room and like do a past life I want to do it. We need to do it. We’re gonna have to do we have to see what I also do you have any theories? I think I definitely drowned because at least in my last life because I believe in multiple lives also It’s in if you don’t it’s it’s not a big. It’s not a big deal if you don’t obviously so

so squeamish when you touch her neck, she had to be like hung or something. Yeah, no, I’m so irrationally afraid of water and I’ve always been that way. I don’t know how I could do on a boat, to be honest. I don’t go on boats. We live in Florida. I’m like, you’re on top of water in a boat. So but I am very, very afraid of water. And so I do think I must have drowned. OK, yeah, I think that I have a birthmark and sometimes they say it’s your birthmark. Yeah.

And it’s literally on my back on my side and I just think I was stabbed there. Like I think somebody like stabbed me. Do you think stabbed on the side you die? I mean like I don’t know. I mean maybe they stabbed me more than one place. Yeah. But I just I’m like wow this is taking a dark turn. I don’t know but I also think it might have been a man. A man. Because I think you might have been a man. No no no no no. Well maybe I was. I don’t know. But I also think the person that killed me was a man.

Because we’re women and men kill women? No, well, we have to talk about the bear. We have to talk about that. But I don’t know if I set my alarm because I have a meeting to go to. We have to talk about that. But we do have to talk about… Let me finish my thought. My thought. Okay, all right. Let me finish real quick. Because I have always been squeamish with men touching me. Yeah. Okay, and it’s been that way my whole life. Okay, so anyway, on TikTok.

There’s a new TikTok. I’m going to let Katie explain this, but that’s this conversation. So there is a question. Women are being asked, would you rather be alone in a forest with a bear or a man? And all the women are responding. Not all. Basically, every woman has said a bear. Yeah. And there are men getting offended by this answer. But there’s also men showing up and saying this, like coming out and being like, OK, let’s put it in perspective. Right. Like.

One in – Like bears don’t kill women, men kill women. Yeah, and the staggering statistics that are coming out of it are insane because you’ll see some TikToks where they break it down. Yeah. And it’s like, is men killing women? It’s like one of the top three ways women die. Well, I, we don’t have the statistics on us because this is, we did not plan this conversation. This was like, yeah, did not plan this. So just like, go do your research on your own. But I was talking about it with my current partner and he was like, yeah, of course you would pick a bear. Like every woman should pick a bear. So –

I, when I first saw the TikTok, I was like, that’s terrifying. I have been on a jog in the woods. I’m not even kidding you. I lived in upper Wisconsin. I was on a jog. I had my headphones in. I turned to my right and a bear was literally two feet from me, like super close to me. I was an idiot at the time and didn’t know how to react. So I like took out my headphones and then for whatever reason, my music started blasting out loud. And then I sprinted away, which is not what you’re supposed to do. You’re supposed to make yourself big.

Okay, so anyway, I learned that afterwards. Okay, I do want to say though, she’s ran into a bear while running. Was it more frightening running into a bear or being followed by a man? So I’ve also experienced where a truck with two men followed me on my run and it got so bad that I went into a driveway, they pulled in with me, so I went into a house I did not know the people of and they helped me call 911.

So that was in Oklahoma, why I don’t like Oklahoma, sorry Oklahoma. But that was more terrifying. That was more terrifying. What’s gonna happen in that truck? I’d rather the bear. And that’s why I say sexual assault is not a funny topic. Every girl has a story. Every girl has a story. But it is insane for men to listen to this because it sounds crazy that a woman would say, I’d rather be in a room with a bear than a man.

But it’s not crazy. It’s not crazy. And I know you touched on this in your Friday feedback. Yes. But the statistic for women being sexually assaulted by men or by anybody sexually assaulted and men get assaulted too. It has to be higher than what is published. One in four or whatever. I think it’s higher than that now. Almost every woman I know has a horrendous story and like we’re all just coping. So like thank you therapy. Yeah. But also like I love you bears.

I’m sorry if I run into you on my run, but I know they’re not malicious and gonna attack me because they hate me. Like that’s true. But yeah, that’s crazy. I definitely encourage everyone to look that up because if you just Google it, I’m sure a TikTok will come up, but it’s just, it’s thought provoking. It is. And if you’re raising girls, it’s something. And if you’re raising boys, raise the good ones. If you’re raising boys, it’s even more important. And also if you’re a dad, like thank you for changing.

or if you’re a good partner, thank you for changing things for our kids because they need good men in their lives. They just do. Yeah, and thank you to the Me Too movement. Okay, so I have to go really because I have to go to a meeting. Okay, but I’m sorry this got so serious. It got so deep. Why do we even have this platform? Why? I don’t know. But we love you guys. I hope that you join us next week and…

on the world’s worst podcast ever. No, we’re a great podcast. We’re so excited. We have been booking guests and I can’t wait to share those with you soon. And we’re being listened to in eight countries now. So yeah. Woohoo! I know. Okay. I love it. Goodbye. We’ll talk to you next week. Bye. Bye.